Posted by: Ann Corcoran | February 28, 2012

So you think that Sharia law is not coming to America?

Think again!  If anything cries out for a stepped-up push in every state for ‘American laws for American courts this case does that!

Here Pamela Geller writing at American Thinker today tells us what happened in a Pennsylvania courtroom recently. (Hat tip: Judy, again!)

Back in October, I reported on Ernest Perce, a parade-goer wearing a “Zombie Muhammad” costume while marching in a local Pennsylvania Halloween parade.  He was viciously attacked and choked by Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim (who was enforcing the sharia — he assumed that it was illegal in this country to insult Muhammad).  “He grabbed me, choked me from the back, and spun me around to try to get my sign off that was wrapped around my neck,” reported Perce.

Last week, an American judge in Pennsylvania, Judge Mark Martin, ruled on the case and sided with the Muslim, and said that the victim would have been put to death in Muslim societies for his “crime.”

Martin told Perce: “Having had the benefit of having spent over two and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. … In many Arabic-speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.”

So what?  This is America, where we don’t have to obey the Islamic blasphemy laws — at least not yet.  But Martin went on to reveal why he was ruling against the victim: “Then what you have done is you have completely trashed their essence, their being. They find it very very very offensive. I’m a Muslim, I find it offensive.”  He now denies that he is a Muslim, but that’s what he said.

Ultimately, it is irrelevant if the judge is or isn’t a Muslim.  What is germane is his sharia ruling, which is worse if he’s not a Muslim.  In Islam, sharia supersedes all man-made laws.

This line (above and below)  is the  most critical line in the entire article and one which every reader should grasp.  There is NO separation of mosque and state in Islam—the law is the Koran and now we see its use creeping into American jurisprudence.

In Islam, sharia supersedes all man-made laws.

Be sure to read Geller’s whole piece (with its many links) in which she interviews Ernest Perce.

Then check out this FOX News clip where you can hear what the judge said to Perce.  (Hat tip: Karen)

Visit Blue Ridge Forum, here, for a discussion of ‘American laws for American courts’ in the Virginia legislature.  So far apparently no interest in Maryland (not a surprise!).


Responses

  1. While I do not agree with the Muslim man’s action (strangling the Pennsylvania man), I believe Pamela Geller is misguided. This decision does not enforce Sharia Law, as the man was not executed for his act of making fun of Muhammad as Sharia Law requires. Instead it seems the judge was punishing Ernest Perce, the Pennsylvania partygoer, for being discriminatory toward Muslims (including the man who strangled Perce). The lesson for any person should be to learn different cultures before you go out being discriminatory to them. Also, the fact that Islamic law supersedes man-made law is irrevelent in this case because it is not being enforced (the judge even alluded to it himself). While I will admit that Sharia law has been used, it has been used inside of the courtroom, not outside of it. I fear that the talk of Sharia law coming to America may cause people to act hateful toward Muslims and discrimination toward them. This is not good for American society where people must stick together and unite against the monied interests for the betterment of the society as a whole.

  2. To Burkely: You’re either missing a chip in your brain to not see the assault on first amendment rights here – or – you’re just another agenda-driven- Muslim purposely twisting words around, hoping God-and-USA-respecting Americans won’t notice while you try to take us down from within. Message for you: IT WON’T WORK!!! The judge should be fired for failing to uphold Mr. Pence’s constitutional rights. The Muslim man should be thrown in jail for assault. And how dare you suggest there is a ‘lesson for people to learn different cultures’. EXCUSE ME ? How about Muslims learning to ASSIMILATE in a country that ALLOWS freedom of expression – and have the decency and manners not to ATTACK people if they don’t like what they see. HELLO. We in this country ARE NOT SAVAGES LIKE THIS DISGUSTING MUSLIM MAN WAS – GET IT ? This is NOT a discrimination issue. It’s a repulsive, radical Muslim who does not respect or adhere to the laws and constitution of the country he has UNFORTUNATELY decided to reside in – and instead, he BULLIES Americans ! You all make me SICK. Obviously the skillset of “works and plays well with others” is never a part of Muslim child-rearing. It’s anything BUT that !! And on your phrase ‘the fact that Islamic law supersedes man-made law’: Thought you could slip that little gem right in there, eh? Again, who the HELL do you people think you are? Let me tell you the FACTS. This is AMERICA. Islamic/sharia law doesn’t mean CRAP here. In fact – it is SO antithetical to our laws – it is ENTIRELY ILLEGAL here. Moreover, Muslims who pledge or claim to follow Islamic/sharia law, by definition, can really NEVER be considered VALID U.S. CITIZENS !!. . And you thought you could slip yet another one in with ‘while I admit that Sharia law has been used, it has been used inside of the court, not outside’. So we’re supposed to think, oh, well that’s OK then, because it was “only” used ‘inside the court’. GOTCHA! It is PRECISELY INSIDE the courts, that this battle is and MUST BE FOUGHT !!! My, you are the clever one aren’t you. Well once again. IT WON’T WORK. Please take you insidious, subliminal suggestions and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine. “Not good for American society” ? I’ll give you that one !! But the rest of your final drivel needs to be sanitized as well. The only thing our ‘American society must stick together on’ is a recognition that the Muslim man who attacked Ernest Perce is one of MANY who are enemies to America. And the sooner these vermin are ferreted out and driven out of our country – the ‘better off our society will be as a whole’.

    • To In God We Trust: Wow. That was an interesting comment. Let me make clear a number of points. Number one, I support free speech and other First Amendment rights enforced everywhere. Right now, the government is definately curtialing these rights through “anti-terror” legislation like the PATRIOT Act. The same occurred back in 1798 when John Adams Administration passed the Alien and Sedition Acts. 200 people went to prison for speaking against the President. At the same time, discrimination under the law is illegal.  This is a case of Ernest Perce discriminating against the Muslim man by wearing a zombie Muhammad costume. I do not excuse the Muslim man’s action of choking Ernest Perce to enforce Sharia law. However, Perce’s ignorance of Muslim practices and Sharia law should be noted, as should the Muslim man’s ignorance of the U.S. legal system (he should have known that Sharia law does not apply in America). 

      I will say this once again. Sharia law may be somewhat in the court system, but it is not enforced outside of the system. If you are opposed to Sharia law then lobby for a law to prohibit its application in the legal system. Don’t just complain about it, do something. At the same time, remember this: Article V  of the U.S. Constitution declares federal law to be the supreme law of the land. Still, state and popular opposition  to enforcing such laws can be good, if laws are unjust and unfair.

      Getting back to your comment, I will tell you a few things. Number one, I’m not a Muslim. In fact, I’m not religious at all. Also, a judge cannot be fired, but could be dismissed or otherwise penalized depending on local law. Also, assimilation of Muslims is not a good idea based on previous experience. American Indians were assimilated forcefully by the government and voluntarily (some assimilated themselves) up to the close 19th Century. What happened? Their culture, language and customs were basically deatroyed. These aspects only came back after American Indians were given more independence by the govetnment. Assimilation of Muslims would do the same as with American Indians, their culture, customs and language would be basically wiped out. 

      For your comment about the man being thrown into jail for assault, that is too high of a charge. “In the United States, criminal battery, or simply battery, is the use of force against another, resulting in harmful or offensive contact.” (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)#cite_note-0). On a final note, Muslims are not an enemies of America, instead the American government is becoming the enemy of Muslims (in their mind) through drone strikes, military action and other covert action. 

      • Regarding your comment about getting a law passed to disallow the consideration of Sharia in American courts there is such a movement—it’s called the American laws for American courts movement and it is gaining steam.

      • Yes, it is defibately gaining steam alright. I do not agree with such a movement, as I feel that if it contained in the courts, its fine with me. It can’t or won’t seep into the world outside the courts as America is not ruled by Islamic law, the President is not Islamic and the supreme law of the land is federal law. At the same time, I feel that the idea Sharia Law spreading throughout America is one that should not be a top priority. Holding the government accountable, creating a better society by ending foreign wars and other military missions (incl. drones, special ops), and coming together for action to oppose plutocrats and oligarchs controlling the country and its government (not in a conspiracy-based manner). Creating a government that spends less is great except the programs that should be targeted for massive cuts must include the military, inteligence, special ops, those parts of the govt. that spread propaganda (Broadcasting Board of Governors, Millenium Development Corp, and many more…) If completed, one could even solve debt problems and get a balanced budget.

  3. Just a reminder of the a few things about commenting here at PTPR:

    https://potomacteapartyreport.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/just-a-little-housekeeping-note/


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